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=== '''New Stuff''' === | === '''New Stuff''' === | ||
− | * | + | * [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/whatsnew.php Release Review] next Wed June 4 at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=4&year=2008&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 8am PST] (our usual committer meeting time) |
− | ** | + | ** Want to move next committer meeting to [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Jun-2008|Thursday Jun 5]] at 8am PST (same time), ok? Or do it after/at our [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Jun-2008|Monthly Meeting Jun4]] at 9am PST? |
− | ** | + | ** Our slides: Minideck ([http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/presentations/TM_3.0_Release_Review_Minideck.ppt PPT] | [http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/presentations/TM_3.0_Release_Review_Minideck.pdf PDF], All slides ([http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/presentations/TM_3.0_Release_Review.ppt PPT] | [http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/presentations/TM_3.0_Release_Review.pdf PDF] |
− | ** {{Bug| | + | ** Full [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/slides/Ganymede_04June2008.zip Ganymede Slides] - We are #22ff on the Overview deck, alphabetically pretty soon |
− | ** {{Bug| | + | * [[Development Resources/Project Plan]] Status |
− | ** {{Bug| | + | ** Ours is XML now, on http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/tm_plan_3_0.xml -- also in your www-tm-development project |
− | ** {{Bug| | + | ** Bjorn's tooling [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.tm renders it to PHP] |
− | ** | + | |
+ | * Late API Changes / Additions | ||
+ | ** Must decide how we want to handle Apidoc bugs | ||
+ | ** '''Take the time now''' to review and improve unclear API descriptions | ||
+ | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Assignee All open API] bugs | ||
+ | ** {{Bug|234215}} {{Bug|234030}}: AbstractSystemViewElementAdapter#doDelete*(): Treat Exception same as SystemMessageException? Treat "cancelled" same as Exception? | ||
+ | ** {{Bug|165171}} Should the File Permissions Property Page be extendable? Close bug, file a new one? | ||
+ | ** {{Bug|190231}} Subsystem UI->non-UI: Go for it? | ||
+ | ** {{Bug|230298}} (api)(breaking) ISystemPropertyConstants should not extend IBasicPropertyConstants | ||
+ | ** {{Bug|185348}}, {{Bug|204796}} Terminal non-API | ||
+ | |||
=== '''Steps Towards Ganymede''' === | === '''Steps Towards Ganymede''' === | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]] | * [[DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede]] | ||
− | ** We have | + | ** We have RC2, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by a reviewer BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF |
− | + | ||
** Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale | ** Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale | ||
− | * | + | * [[TM 3.0 RC2 Testing]] Status |
− | + | ** Committers step up with good example to draw community members to it! | |
− | ** | + | ** Somebody must test our integration with the JEE EPP Package |
− | + | ||
* '''Bug Triage''' | * '''Bug Triage''' | ||
− | ** | + | ** '''AI Everyone''' '''must review your assigned bugs''' and move to 3.0.1 where possible |
** All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes) | ** All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes) | ||
+ | ** Work on remaining ones by priority | ||
+ | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M5&target_milestone=3.0+M6&target_milestone=3.0+M7&target_milestone=3.0+RC1&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit Open RC2 Assigned] bugs, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+RC2&target_milestone=3.0+RC3&target_milestone=3.0+RC4&target_milestone=3.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit open 3.0 Assigned] bugs | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Martin's new Build System for Dave | ||
+ | ** In the works | ||
* '''New and Noteworthy''' | * '''New and Noteworthy''' | ||
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* '''Cleanup Work''' | * '''Cleanup Work''' | ||
** Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do: | ** Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do: | ||
+ | *** Unittests, unittests, unittests! | ||
*** New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation) | *** New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation) | ||
*** Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool) | *** Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool) | ||
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=== What will happen after Ganymede? === | === What will happen after Ganymede? === | ||
− | * | + | * Going for 3.1 next year? Create a bugzilla target milestone? |
− | * | + | * [[TM Future Planning]] Wiki for collecting ideas |
** Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware | ** Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware | ||
** Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties | ** Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties | ||
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** Bring TCF to Maturity | ** Bring TCF to Maturity | ||
** Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs | ** Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs | ||
− | * | + | ** Java1.4 on the Server, Java5 on the Client |
− | * | + | |
− | + | ||
− | + | ||
=== Questions === | === Questions === | ||
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** Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 what we can | ** Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 what we can | ||
** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests | ** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests | ||
− | * '''DaveD''': | + | * '''DaveD''': |
* '''DaveM''': Fix {{Bug|231209}} IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection() | * '''DaveM''': Fix {{Bug|231209}} IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection() | ||
* '''Kevin''': - | * '''Kevin''': - | ||
* '''Rupen''': - | * '''Rupen''': - | ||
* '''Xuan''': - | * '''Xuan''': - | ||
− | * '''Martin''': | + | * '''Martin''': New Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; UI/Non-UI Splitting; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; |
* '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | * '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | ||
* '''Michael''': Terminal improvements | * '''Michael''': Terminal improvements | ||
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
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* Monthly [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Jun-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=4&year=2008&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 9am PST / 1600 UTC] | * Monthly [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Jun-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=4&year=2008&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 9am PST / 1600 UTC] | ||
+ | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Jun-2008]] (8 days) at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=6&day=5&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg] | ||
[[Category:DSDP/TM]] | [[Category:DSDP/TM]] |
Revision as of 07:30, 28 May 2008
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Wednesday May 28, 2008 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1600 London / 1700 Salzburg |
Dial-in: | SkypeOut: +99008275601400 (free!) - powered by Highspeedconferencing.com |
Backup1: Martin to call everybody by Skype
Backup2 dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
- ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Agenda
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 21-May-2008
- Skype Call Quality
New Stuff
- Release Review next Wed June 4 at 8am PST (our usual committer meeting time)
- Want to move next committer meeting to Thursday Jun 5 at 8am PST (same time), ok? Or do it after/at our Monthly Meeting Jun4 at 9am PST?
- Our slides: Minideck (PPT | PDF, All slides (PPT | PDF
- Full Ganymede Slides - We are #22ff on the Overview deck, alphabetically pretty soon
- Development Resources/Project Plan Status
- Ours is XML now, on http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/tm_plan_3_0.xml -- also in your www-tm-development project
- Bjorn's tooling renders it to PHP
- Late API Changes / Additions
- Must decide how we want to handle Apidoc bugs
- Take the time now to review and improve unclear API descriptions
- All open API bugs
- bug 234215 bug 234030: AbstractSystemViewElementAdapter#doDelete*(): Treat Exception same as SystemMessageException? Treat "cancelled" same as Exception?
- bug 165171 Should the File Permissions Property Page be extendable? Close bug, file a new one?
- bug 190231 Subsystem UI->non-UI: Go for it?
- bug 230298 (api)(breaking) ISystemPropertyConstants should not extend IBasicPropertyConstants
- bug 185348, bug 204796 Terminal non-API
Steps Towards Ganymede
- DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
- We have RC2, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by a reviewer BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
- Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
- TM 3.0 RC2 Testing Status
- Committers step up with good example to draw community members to it!
- Somebody must test our integration with the JEE EPP Package
- Bug Triage
- AI Everyone must review your assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 where possible
- All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
- Work on remaining ones by priority
- Open RC2 Assigned bugs, open 3.0 Assigned bugs
- Martin's new Build System for Dave
- In the works
- New and Noteworthy
- I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
- See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
- For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
- Useractions
- Hi-priority-bugs
- Severity Major, Hi-Priority
- Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 10 major (DaveD, DaveM, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 20 other P2's
- Please fix the known hi-priority bugs as soon as possible -- best before the coordinated testing on RC2, to ensure we get good test coverage
- Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, should apply now if possible (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)
- Cleanup Work
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do:
- Unittests, unittests, unittests!
- New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
- Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
- API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
- Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
- Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing
- Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
- Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
- Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
- Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
- Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
- TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do:
What will happen after Ganymede?
- Going for 3.1 next year? Create a bugzilla target milestone?
- TM Future Planning Wiki for collecting ideas
- Connection Grouping - be Multicore aware
- Rewrite the Tableview to be really aware of Properties
- More dynamic subsystem enablement and configuration (e.g. detect UNIX vs Windows automatically at runtime)
- Hi-Performance, caching EFS provider
- Bring TCF to Maturity
- Quality: Add unittest coverage, reduce bloat, improve performance, streamline APIs
- Java1.4 on the Server, Java5 on the Client
Questions
- DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062
Committer Status and Report
- Javier - New Employer in Barcelona
- DaveD -
- bug 189274 Import/export connections
- DaveM: -
- JUnit should autotest dstore against old servers as well - an IBM thing
- Kevin: -
- Xuan: -
- Martin: - bug 215301 New project plan format -- Need to put Project Plan on the Web; AI Martin Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
- Commons.Net 1.5.0 not yet released - AI Martin create placeholder CQ
- Next tasks - Move SubsystemConfiguration implementation into non-UI; Lazy loading of SubsystemConfiguration (use the Proxy more); Lazy loading of UI adapters; some exceptions observed by Uwe (Wind River) in our nightly wheels
- bug 221190 EFS getChild() with relative path - perhaps need to check whether our impl still works properly
- GSoC student Takuya Miyamoto for bug 185925
- Uwe: -
- Rupen: -
- Michael: -
- Eugene: -
- Rado: -
- Felix: -
- Questions
Old Stuff
- Unit Tests - next priority after API
- Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
- bug 221211 MultiStatus for IFileService batch operations - exception on first failure for modifying operations. No exceptions/multistatus on non-modifying operations. AI DaveD/DaveM update Javadocs when it's clear what we want
- bug 220379 Make DStoreFileService API - encodingHandler - wait on reporter - is this fixed now that IService is IAdaptable as per bug 226262? AI DaveM ask reporters
- bug 220547 SimpleSystemMessage message ID - globally unique message id vs. plugin-local status - Dialog Title: MessageID if globally unique / generic title based on severity if plugin-local - AI DaveM think about
- Bugzilla:
- Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
- Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 31 weeks / 5 milestones, so each committer is due 62 fixes / 10 unittests
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
- Unittests: when adding a test, please add the tag //-test-author:YourName in front of it
- DaveM - 5
- DaveD - 22
- KevinD - 11
- MartinO - 3
- TobiasS - 3
- UweS - 7
- XuanC - 51
- Total - 101
- Javier - 0
Vacation, away
- Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
- DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
- DaveD in July
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone: Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
- Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 what we can
- Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
- DaveD:
- DaveM: Fix bug 231209 IRemoteFile.getSystemConnection()
- Kevin: -
- Rupen: -
- Xuan: -
- Martin: New Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; UI/Non-UI Splitting; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD;
- Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
- Michael: Terminal improvements
- Uwe: -
- Rado: Fix bug 230919 IFileService.delete()
- Felix: -
- Eugene: -